====================================================================== IBIS INTERCONNECT MODELING AD HOC TASK GROUP MEETING MINUTES AND AGENDA http://www.eda.org/ibis/adhoc/interconnect/ Mailing list: ibis-interconn@freelists.org ====================================================================== Next Meeting Wednesday, October 24, 2007 Telephone Bridge Passcode 916-356-2663 5 325-6635 LiveMeeting Details - NOTE: USE THE DETAILS BELOW ONLY IF THE OUTLOOK INVITATION LINKS FAIL If you need to be added to the LiveMeeting, contact Michael Mirmak Subject: IBIS Ad Hoc Interconnect Meeting Meeting URL: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/intel/join Meeting ID: 6WW748 Meeting Key: z%*:9])#D Role: Attendee Agenda: - Review of Touchstone(R) 2.0 draft 11 - Review of Touchstone(R) 2.0 Addendum, draft 3 ([Matrix Format], [Number of Frequency Points] keywords) ====================================================================== Minutes from October 10: Attendees: ---------- (* denotes present) Agilent - Radek Biernacki*, John Moore Green Streak Programs - Lynne Green Intel - Michael Mirmak* Mentor Graphics Corp. - John Angulo* Micron Technology - Randy Wolff* Sigrity - Sam Chitwood* Teraspeed Consulting Group - Bob Ross* ======================================================================== The team reviewed the latest version of the Touchstone 2.0 draft plus the addendum documenting the [Matrix Format] keyword and associated network parameter changes. Touchstone 2.0 ---------- - Note that noise parameter "x1" should have a frequency restriction less than *or equal to* the maximum frequency of the network parameters elsewhere in the file - Reference impedance should be positive - dB/angle form was not allowed in the conventional form of G, H, Y and Z parameters - Y, Z parameters not allowed formally for 3 or more ports - total file size restricted to 99 ports Bob suggested adding much of this into a "Compatibility Notes" section at the end of the document. Addendum ---------- - Randy suggested checking the capitalization of "version" - the last sentence before the "1- and 2-port Networks" section should be removed - equations should be changed to italics - check that the word "block" and "subset" are removed or clearly used - Radek suggested that Example 5 remove normalization and use a non-1 reference value. He also suggested that each matrix row does not need to start at the beginning of a line - in the paragraph above Example 9, the use of "row" is incorrect - the examples need to include [Version 2.0] if any Version 2.0 keywords are present - check use of "frequency points" vs. "values" - add [Number of Frequency Points] keyword and appropriate text The team will continue working on the revised drafts. ======================================================================== Team Objectives: 1) complete ICM-IBIS linking BIRD and any associated changes to the ICM specification 2) update the ICM specification, if needed, to clarify the mapping of ICM nodes to S-parameter ports 3) complete a specification for "Touchstone Plus" or similar industry-standard definition for Touchstone-like files, to include complex impedance references, removal of limits on the maximum number of ports and per-port impedance references